Wikipédia:Esplanada/geral/A-B test for the New Discussion Tool (7out2021)

A-B test for the New Discussion Tool (7out2021)

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The mw:Editing team is building the New Discussion tool. This new tool was requested during the mw:Talk pages consultation 2019. You can turn on "Ferramentas de discussão" now at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. It changes the "Adicionar tópico" button. It makes "Adicionar tópico" work more like the [responder] button. It has both visual and wikitext source modes. It will add your signature automatically.

The Editing team wants to test the New Discussion tool. Your Wikipedia helped with the study about the responder tool. That study was useful and had clear, positive results. They ask you to help again with a new test. They want to learn whether the New Discussion tool works better, especially for new editors. In the test, they will turn on the New Discussion tool for half of editors. They will not change preferences for the other editors. You will still be able to turn it on or off yourself in Special:Preferences.

The test will run for several weeks. It will probably start in November 2021. The results will be posted at mw:Talk pages project/New discussion. The test results will help Wikipedia editors and the Editing team decide whether the tool should be turned on for everyone.

If your Wikipedia does not want to participate in this test, please contact me as soon as possible. Thank you. Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussão) 23h27min de 7 de outubro de 2021 (UTC)

This is similar to Wikipédia:Esplanada/geral/A/B test for the Reply tool (2dez2020)

This tool makes new ==Sections== instead of individual comments.

I wonder if it is compatible with the scripts for the Esplanada. Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussão) 23h29min de 7 de outubro de 2021 (UTC)

If you want, you can try the New Discussion tool on my talk page: Go to https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Whatamidoing_(WMF)?dtenable=1 and click "Adicionar tópico" at the top of the page. Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussão) 23h32min de 7 de outubro de 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be compatible with the Esplanada script. It does not create a separate page for each discussion, with automatic categories. GoEThe (discussão) 09h12min de 8 de outubro de 2021 (UTC)

@GoEThe, one of the devs tells me that if you put __NONEWSECTIONLINK__ on Wikipédia:Esplanada/geral and Wikipédia:Esplanada/propostas, then that should solve the problem (by making the page use the script properly). This is what they did at the French Wikipedia's Le Bistro pages, and it seems to have worked there. Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussão) 22h13min de 4 de novembro de 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, it seems that fixes it. GoEThe (discussão) 22h27min de 4 de novembro de 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @Whatamidoing (WMF), I already had it activated for me. Mr. Sand. ❧ Ano ⓬ 21h44min de 8 de outubro de 2021 (UTC)

If you have the Beta Feature enabled, then the New Discussion tool is part of the Beta Feature. Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussão) 16h56min de 12 de outubro de 2021 (UTC)

This has started. Thank you for your patience.

@GoEThe and @MisterSanderson, would you please do me a favor? Would you remind editors about this? The most important point is that, if they don't like it, they can turn it off in Especial:Preferências#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion. Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussão) 21h02min de 27 de janeiro de 2022 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF) Are you telling that now the New Discussion is default for everyone? Mr. Sand. ❧ Ano ⓭ 21h41min de 30 de janeiro de 2022 (UTC)

@MisterSanderson, no. It's turned on for about half of editors. Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussão) 20h39min de 31 de janeiro de 2022 (UTC)

Update, in case anyone is still watching this old page: The results have been posted. You can read the report. Short answer: It is better for new editors than the old form. The Editing team would like to turn this on here. If you do not want to use it, you can turn it off at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing-discussion. Thank you for helping us test this new tool. Whatamidoing (WMF) (discussão) 19h42min de 29 de abril de 2022 (UTC)